Friday, October 2, 2009
My new years resolutions
In that spirit, here are the events I really don't want to miss this year:
May 9, 10 Mother's Day Powwow
June Juan de Bautista Fiesta and annual Kelly town reunion
September 25-27 San Miguel Fiesta
October 3 Blessing of the Animals, Historic Plaza
October 10 Sevilleta Wildlife Refuge open house
December 7 La Pastorela
I also have never made it to the London Frontier Theatere in Magdalena which perform original plays in a building by the Works Projects Administraton. Their next play is October 23/24/25
THE BALLAD OF BABE & BEAU
Sunday, July 19, 2009
Buying and Selling in Socorro
- You can get a fair amount of pet (dog and cat) supplies at Southwest http://www.blogger.com/img/blank.gifFeed at 408 N California St.
- Need running shoes or children's dress shoes? Brownbilts at 111 Manzanares Avenue has brand name running shoes, some hiking boots and kids shoes...and, cowboy hats, boots and jeans.
- Socorro has a Freecycle group -- it's a listserve where you can post items that you want to give away or items you are looking for (no buying!).
- While Socorro doesn't have a craigslist of it's own, if you go to the Albuquerque craigslist and search for Socorro you'll find lots of buying and selling -- more than 100 items last time I looked -- that's more than is in El Defensor Chiefton. There's also some rentals listed. I've been told that most of the selling is Socorro to Socorro.
Friday, July 17, 2009
Recycling in Socorro
Items that are still valuable, or downright dangerous, can be recycled piecemeal, as described in the list below. Or you can hire Morning Wood Cutters for $20 a month at your house. They recycle cardboard, paperboard, newspaper, computer paper, junk mail, magazines, glass bottles, plastic bottles, plastic grocery bags, tin, aluminum, copper, and steel.
What | When | Where |
aluminum cans and newspaper | 1st Saturday 8:30-11:20AM | lot south of Ace Hardware |
aluminum cans | anytime | various cardboard recycling bins |
mixed paper and paperboard | 3rd Saturday 8:30-11:20AM | Plaza |
e-waste | business hours | Computers by LTJ 105 Plaza |
plastic bags | business hours | bin at Walmart or Smiths. Smiths gives "points" for bringing your own plastic bags |
cardboard boxes, motor oil | anytime | next to animal shelter/UPS |
vehicle batteries | business hours | NAPA Auto Parts |
tires | landfill hours | landfill, 1$ charge (closed for high winds) |
toner cartridges | business hours | Cottonwood Charter School |
cell phone, rechargeable batteries, all toner cartridges | business hours | Rotary Club boxes at Coffee Shop, Library, Smith's photo, Corner Copy |
What about compost? There are two facts that you need to know about composting in New Mexico -- you must water the compost -- or it will mumify rather than compost. The second thing you need is worms.
Sunday, July 5, 2009
Bad sunscreen, no skin cancer!
Bummer to find out that much of the sunscreen you can buy either doesn't protect against skin cancer or contains chemicals that are bad for you!
The Environmental Working Group has published a study on sunscreens, rating sunscreens from 0 (very protective, no harmful ingredients) to 10 (no UVA protection, cancer-causing ingredients).
Two things in particular stand out in their research: if you get a sunscreen that protects against UVB but not UVA, then you can stay out all day, not get burned, and still be collecting rays for skin cancer. Secondly, many sunscreens use oxybenzone as a UVB blocker -- but oxybenzone has been shown to cause cancer, and disrupt the reproductive system -- and other, better UVB blockers are available.
Surely the sunscreens (or at least the expensive ones) in our medicine cabinet are OK? No, most of them contain oxybenzone, and they score an average of 6 on the EWG scale. Of the thousands of sunscreens they reviewed, they made a summary of "easy to find" safe sunscreens. However, that list includes things never seen this side of Santa Fe -- I have never run across the brands "Mission Skincare" or "California Baby".
The one item I do take issue with is the recommendation against any use of spray sunscreens. EWG worries about ingesting and inhaling all sun screen ingredients, but is especially worried about inhaling spray sunscreens. As you can see in the picture, my babies have just a tiny bit of hair -- not enough to protect their scalp. We have done battle with hats, but finally spray sunscreen has come to the rescue. We only apply it outdoors, we spray from the back, but it protects her head and cannot be easily replaced by a oil-based cream.
So I did some research, at Smiths, John Brooks Supermart, Walmart, then in Albuquerque at Walgreens and La Montinita. Walmart had decided it wasn't summer anymore and taken out ALL OF THE SUNSCREEN. John Brooks had several "natural" brands of sunscreen, but all contained oxybenzone. Since the safest sunscreen recommended by EWG were extremely expensive, I have sorted this list of "locally" available sunscreens by price per ounce.
Name | Size (oz) | Cost | $/oz | Score | Where to Buy |
Coppertone Water BABIES - “Pure & Simple” | 8 | $12.00 | 1.50 | 3 | Walgreens |
Banana Boat Kids Tear-Free UltraMist Spray 30 | 6 | $9.65 | 1.61 | 4 | Walmart |
J.A.S.O.N. Mineral | 4 | $7.99 | 2.00 | 2 | La Montanita |
Neutrogena “Sensitive Skin” | 4 | $9.99 | 2.50 | 3 | Walgreens |
Walgreens Sunblock with Zinc Oxide, SPF 45+ | 2 | $5.00 | 2.50 | 3 | Walgreens |
Blue Lizard “Face” | 5 | $14.99 | 3.00 | 3 | Walgreens |
Blue Lizard "Baby" | 5 | $14.99 | 3.00 | 3 | Walgreens |
Blue Lizard "Sensitive" | 5 | $14.99 | 3.00 | 3 | Walgreens |
Neutrogena “Pure & Free” | 3 | $10.99 | 3.66 | 3 | Smiths, Walgreens |
Burt's Bees Chemical-Free Sunscreen, SPF 30 | 3.5 | $15.00 | 4.29 | 4 | La Montanita |
Kiss My Face Face Factor | 2 | $12.49 | 6.25 | 4 | La Montanita |
Solar Sense - “Clear Zinc Sport Stick” | 0.45 | $4.49 | 9.98 | 3 | Walgreens |
I will mention that many of the "safe" sunscreens leave me with a white pasty face all day -- which is fine for my busy unselfconscious children, but not as acceptable for grown ups.
Friday, May 29, 2009
NMT Mineral Museum
I confess one reason I love the NMT Mineral Museum is that I grew up near a grocery/rock shop with a very similar museum in the back. Some deep part of me believes that childhood requires a rock museum you can return to, over and over again.
The NMT Mineral Museum has two large rooms of lovely rocks -- some sorted by the exact mine they came out of, and best of all, a glow-in-the-dark room (sorted by New Mexican and non-New Mexican specimens).
The Museum is free and is directly east of Macey Center park. It's open seven days a week. For my five year old it's good for about 15 minutes of serious browsing. I extend her interest by playing a game called "dibs" -- each of us picks out a favorite rock in each display case. Lynn's favorites are fool's gold and quartz.
I don't normally schedule outings entirely around shopping, but I have to say the BEST thing about The Mineral Museum is buying rocks. It's cool, educational, and the price is right. Graduate students are on call for questions or to sell rocks -- dial the number posted near the phone. Eschew the rotating display case (too awkward for kiddos) and ask them to pull out the trays of 25 cent rocks from the cupboard. Two dollars later you have a rock collection. I think it's cool that each rock comes nestled in packing material with a typed label identifying it -- naturally the kiddo strips this all off the minute we get home.
While the museum is upstairs, the elevator makes it wheelchair and stroller friendly. Bathrooms are around the corner.
Monday, May 18, 2009
A YouTube course on Media Literacy for Five Year Olds

Our five year old is media deprived. She is not allowed to use our computers. We go to great lengths to make sure the TV she watches is commercial-free. Everything she watches has to pass the our idiosyncratic family rating system -- Disney movies are too scary, the violence in Kim Possible, The Muppet Show, and Scooby Doo is fine. Home is a nice protected environment.
A few months ago our daughter went to a friend's house and had a transformative experience -- she spent a few hours playing on Barbie.com. For the next three days we talked about nothing but Barbie.com. I heard about the games, about the paper-doll dress-ups, the toys, the rockstars. While there's nothing I hate more than Pepto-Bismol-pink Barbie, really, I'm not all that upset. I remember going to my friends houses and making a beeline for MTV. I remember eating nothing but Cocoa Puffs and Captain Crunch three meals a day my first few weeks in college. She does need to be exposed to the real world somewhere, and a few hours of braincandy is not going to undermine our 24/7 home life.
What strikes me, in a bad way, is how powerful TV and the internet is. Since she'd had no exposure to any of this, she sucked it up like a sponge. My gentle prompting that Barbie.com has something to sell had little effect. So, fight fire with fire. I hit the internet, and found the makings of a course on media literacy for five year olds.
I suggest that you don't try to do this in one day -- both because kiddos have short attention spans and because they need time to think about their questions. Repetition is good -- I've shown this to her two or three time, seizing the chance when a friend is over. The second time I showed it to Alexander he gratified me by turning to me and saying "The Typhoon II isn't so cool, it only runs nine minutes before the batteries run out".
HBO has a great series from the 1990's called "Buy Me That" which is surprisingly undated. Available on YouTube is a 3 minute video on the reality of commercials: Buy Me That: Helping Kids Understand Toy Ads, Typhoon II
Next onto fast food commercials:
There's a wonderful food stylist video on YouTube -- she's a bit like Donna Reed as she puts cardboard in your hamburger, straight pins in the lettuce and Styrofoam in the french fries. I like to follow this up with the musical montage of real vs. fake. Encourage the kids to yell out "Real!" vs. "Fake!" as the images are shown.
Now I need a segment on product placements in movies, kid eye-level marketing in grocery stores and brand-orientated web sites. Suggestions anyone?
(for local parents in Socorro I have the full VHS tape which has:
- Typhoon II episode (toy doesn't work as shown)
- How the GI Joe Battle Copter ad was made
- Product placements in movies and video games
- Kids Clubs
- How special effects make everything sound better on TV
- Does buying everything make you a bigger fan?
- Do Nike shoes make you jump higher or run faster?
- How much Corn Flakes do you have to eat to collect all 15 3D baseball cards?
Saturday, May 16, 2009
Children's radio program now online
Now two weeks of archives are available at their website. The archive format is a bit awkward -- rather than select a show, you must select a time slot, so remember, Saturday 9AM to 10AM. So next time you need an hour of kid-friendly cheerful music, The Children's Hour will be there (maybe even two hours!).
If you listen often, please do remember to donate to KUNM. Public radio, like everything else, is suffering a lot during the economic downturn. Streaming and podcasting makes it seem like the programs come out of nowhere, but in fact there are real people who need real salaries (and health insurance!) behind the programs.
Thursday, May 14, 2009
The New Mexico Starter Library
So without further ado, here is my recommendations for New Mexico books:
![]() Conrad Hilton grew up in San Antonio, just twelve miles south of Socorro. His dad ran a grocery store/hotel, then they moved to the "big town" of Socorro. The first half of this memoir is well worth reading. Conrad's father stands out as one of the few settlers of the wild west who refused to carry a gun. He claimed that carrying a gun meant that sooner or later either you or the person you pointed it at died. There's a harrowing scene of him talking a drunken cowboy down at gunpoint. |
![]() This book is much bigger than Carson alone. It tells the rich and complex history of the "taming" of New Mexico and fills in the detail of the brutal campaign against the Navajos. The US Army (hopelessly unsuited to New Mexico) has the duty to protect the pueblos and the Hispanic settlers only lately inherited from Mexico. The governor and army desperately want a Napoleonic style war, with a single leader to negotiate with, and had no idea how to deal with raids carried out by small groups of young male Navajos...thus the tragedy of Bosque Rondondo. This book explained something I never understood -- why anyone thought that interning Apaches with Navajo was a good idea. |
![]() If importing brides to the wild west leaves a bad taste in your mouth, don't worry, by the end of this book, you are left with the joy of being a young women in 1900, getting to leave home (with chaperon), travel west (live in a dorm), draw a salary, and transfer between Harvey Houses! I've written more extensively in my article about the Belen Harvey Museum. |
![]() If you like mysteries (or even if you can just only stand them) you should read all of Tony Hillerman's mysteries. They are set primarily in Arizona, but the country, and traditions are New Mexican -- Hopi and Navajo did not draw those state borders. This light book is from Hillerman's newspaper days, and is a "Prairie Home Companion" take on New Mexico. We are a small town at heart. |
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![]() This fabulous book is a wonderful romp through small town New Mexico. I hate to say much about -- I don't want to give anything away. Hispanic farmers, innocent and well meaning university volunteers, land developers and ghosts cavort. It should be required reading for anyone who crosses the border. I wish I could recommend all the books in the trilogy, but they get rapidly weirder and more violent. |
Tuesday, May 5, 2009
Things that every kid should know
- Sedillo springs, which used to be the town's water supply is the only known location of Socorro Isopods, a pill bug that lives in the water.
- The town's name means "help" and can be used positively (as in assistance) and as a exclamation --"Socorro!".
- Despite what your mother says about running the water while you brush your teeth, Socorro is not a desert. It gets 12 inches of rain a year, two inches more than deserts, making it merely "semiarid".
- Socorro Texas was founded by Piro Indians who left Socorro NM to go back to Old Mexico during the Publeo revolt -- they were in trouble for helping the Spanish.
- Socorro is nationally known among birders for the Bosque del Apache wildlife refuge and among amateur astronomers for The Enchanted Skies star party.
- Elfego Baca, the Hispanic folk hero, was born in Socorro and served here as mayor and sheriff. When he was 19, he deputized himself, went to Frisco (present day Reserve) and tried to arrest a Anglo cowboy who had abused Hispanic ranchers. There was a 30 hour shootout, involving more than 1000 rounds of ammunition. Since his law enforcement credentials were a bit shaky so he later had to stand trial for the arrest. The story grew in the telling and Baca had a long political career.
- Socorro used to have a roller skating rink and a bowling alley. Those were the days.
- Conrad Hilton, who founded the Hilton hotel chain, was born in San Antonio and moved to the "big town" of Socorro. The first half of his autobiography, "Be My Guest", is all about growing up in New Mexico
- New Mexico has the highest numbers of Ph.D.s per capita in the U.S. Within New Mexico, Los Alamos has 261, Albuquerque has 76 and Socorro (city) at 67 per 1000 (PhD or professional degrees, US Census, 2000).
- The Nicotine Patch was invented by a former professor at NMT and he and NMT share the patent for it.
- New Mexico has the second highest teenage birth rate in the country: 64.1 per 1000. Socorro (2006) "only" has 57 per 1000, placing it 17 out of 33 counties in New Mexico.
- The Pueblo Revolt of 1680 was the single most successful Native American revolt against European invaders. The revolt drove all Spanish from New Mexico for 12 years.
Monday, May 4, 2009
A Hike to Sedillo Springs

This two mile round trip hike is described as part of a longer bike ride at the Fat Tire Fiesta website.
The hike is through desert scrub, then on dirt roads, to the old Socorro water supply. We love hikes (rare in New Mexico) that end with water. The view of Socorro is lovely. Have your kids check the water temperature (80 degrees!) in series of small concrete baths and look for the Socorro Isopod -- a pill bug that lives in the water. The Socorro Isopod ONLY lives in these springs! The baths are the remains of a spa called "The Evergreen" (like the road).
New Mexico Game and Fish PDF on the Isopod says:
In August 1988 the entire population died out
at the spring when the flow of water became
obstructed and the habitat dried up. Fortunately,
a population of the isopod, which was housed
at the University of New Mexico, saved the
species from extinction, and a transplant has
restored it to Sedillo Spring.
Directions:
- From California, drive west on Spring Street. Rather than turn south onto 60, stay on Spring Street, watching for a residential road branching from the left, Evergreen
- Take Evergreen to the end. We usually park on the right, in front of an abandoned house.
- The first land you cross belongs to a retired Socorro police officer. It's clearly marked "No Trespassing" and "City Vehicles Only", which he explained is designed to keep drinkers and spray painters away. The Fat Tire Fiesta map shows a trail under the powerpoles but there is no trail. Either cut cross-country toward the tank, or if you have a jogging stroller, take the driveway marked "No Trespassing".
- From the tank, pick up the dirt road, headed east. At about a mile, there will be a small trail to the left, leading towards the cottonwood stand (always a good sign of water in New Mexico). At the empty holding pond you can continue toward the adobe ruin, then cut cross country back to the car (barbed wire fence), or retrace your steps, return to the car (or and add a another half mile by climbing to the top of the hill behind the springs).
Belen Harvey House Museum

Taking the train across the wild west from 1817-1917 was quite an adventure, and worst of all, you were on your own for food. You packed a picnic and it had better last. Trains actually stopped in small towns for meals, and some shifty restaurants took your money, then just waited for the train to leave -- your empty stomach on it. To compete with other railway lines, the Atchison, Topeka, and Santa Fe Railway (ATSF) "branded" their railway with Harvey Houses -- regularly scheduled stops where you could order a full meal in a civilized setting. After a drunken fight put his black stewards out of business for the day, Harvey started hiring girls. Waitressing wasn't respectable on the East Coast, but Fred Harvey opened dormitories, hired chaperons, demanded strict manners and brought pride to the profession. Working at the Harvey House gave girls a chance to travel in a chaperoned manner -- they signed six month contracts, were given a free trip home every year, and could transfer between the Harvey Houses, 87 different locations at their peak. The supply chain was very impressive: uniforms were shipped to Newton, Kansas to be laundered, ice was shipped from northern climes to every Harvey House.
An unintended consequence of importing adventurous east-coast girls to male dominated towns of the wild west was that the girls married local cowboys, settled down and brought the Harvey manners to the next generation -- from "Gold Rush" to small town America in one generation. And then the next train brought in a fresh new crop of Harvey Girls.
The Belen Harvey House contains a small museum (the menu is really impressive!) and the model train club. I would watch "Harvey Girls" first, the 1946 musical with Judy Garland and the memorable "Atchison, Topeka and the Santa Fe train song". The movie is good for age 5 and up -- there's a scary fire and threatened gunfight and some rather tame "women of ill repute" (a young Angela Lansbury). The museum is good for about 20 minutes, trains go by, and then the model railroad is fun.
Open 12:30-3:30PM T-S, (575?) 861-0581
Belen is a 45 minute drive from Socoro
Nuisance Dog Map
Sunday, May 3, 2009
Saturday, May 2, 2009
A Calendar of Kiddo Events in Socorro
- May
- 2 Registration for Socorro Cooperative Preschool 575-835-1336
8 Kids T-Ball, softball starts.
5 Cinco de Mayo Celebration, Plaza, Saturday before May 5.
9, 10 Mother's Day Powwow
25 (Memorial Day) Public Pool opens. M-Fri 1-5 PM, Weekends 1-6PM. 1-2$ Always call ahead -- often closed due to lightening, swim meets, etc. (575) 835-3091. Don't forget swim team or lessons. The public pool (unlike the NMT pool) has a lovely wading pool for kiddos.
28 Start of summer vacation - June
1 Summer program begins at the Socorro Public Library
6 El Camino Real Spring Fiesta, El Camino Real Heritage Center
16 Official opening of Farmer's Market Tuesdays 5PM, Saturday 9AM
Juan de Bautista Fiesta and annual Kelly town reunion- July
- 4 Free all day 4th of July celebration at Macey Center. Waterslides, games, music, dancing, then fireworks. Traffic is as bad as it ever gets in Socorro.
5,6 Magdelena's Old Timers Rodeo
6 Tryouts, Missoula Children's Theater grades 1-12, 10AM
9 Elfego Baca Shootout. Not for kids to play in, but I've always wanted to watch this through binoculars.
11 Performance, Missoula Children's Theater, 3PM, 5:30PM
31 Last day to redeem Socorro Public Library "cash" - August
- 7 Hot August Nights, events on the plaza
8 registration starts for AYSO soccer. Starts at age four, practice and games Saturday mornings in September and November, then again in March.
12 First day of public school
15 Pool closes - September
- 5 Country Fair parade down California Street
3-6 Socorro County Fair and Rodeo. The Rodeo has a stick horse race for little kids -- stick horses provided. Everyone gets a ribbon. On the 5th there is a parade from Sedillo park south on California Street.
11 National Dance Institute Performance. The NDI comes to the Socorro schools, teaches everyone how to dance, then puts on a performance. Awesome!
26 M Mountain Fly-in, at the Socorro Airport
25-27 San Miguel Fiesta - October
- 3 Blessing of the Animals, Historic Plaza 835-2891
3 Oktoberfest at the Hammel Museum. Kids will like the model train room upstairs (which is open the first Sunday of each month as well). Bob Eveleth 835-5325
3-4 Chile Proppers Model Aircraft Fly 575-835-4568
9-10 SocorroFest, party on the plaza
9-10 Alamo Indian Days, dance and rodeo at the Alamo Reservation 20 minutes from Magdelena
10 Sevilleta Wildlife Refuge has only one open house a year. Most of the events require preregistration and are for older kids, maybe 10 and up, but on Saturday 10AM-3PM you can drop in and see exhibits and talk to the rangers about the wolves.
16 Public Night observing at Etscorn Observatory, Enchanted Skies Star Party
22-24 49ers Tech Alumni homecoming, parade at 11M Sat 24 ('09) starts Sedillo Park
31 Hamfest (amateur radio) - November
Farmer's Market ends
5-6 Alamo Days, dances and rodeo at the Alamo Navajo Reservation
14-19, Festival of the Crayons. A pun on the Festival of the Cranes, drive by and admire the giant crayons in front of this School of Mines house. Also point out the crane footprints that show the way to Macey Center.
17-22 Festival of the Cranes The festival isn't really a good time to go to the Bosque del Apache. It's crowded and the lectures are really for adults. However, remember that the festival is held in November because WINTER is when the Bosque is really humming -- birds winter over here, then head north in the spring. With short days, visiting at dawn or dusk is easier and the arrival and departure of hundreds of birds is really amazing.
28 Christmas Candy Cane Electric Light Parade- December
- 5-6 Luminarias on the Plaza
7 La Pastorela, the New Mexican version of the traditional Christmas Pageant is all about shepherds. San Miguel.
11 Luminarias at New Mexico Tech for the first night of finals. - January
- February
- 7 Community Arts Party. This is an unbelievable, over-stimulating event. I wouldn't try it before age 4 and you need a 1:1 adult to kid ratio. But it is awesome.
- March
- Saturdays AYSO Soccer spring season
20 Holi (East)Indian festival of colors. Wear a white t-shirt and throw dye at each other. 4PM Tech field, followed by Indian dinner. Sponsored by the East Asian Student Association, announced in SCOPE. - April
- Pre-season Farmer's Market usually starts. Tuesdays 5PM, Saturdays 9AM
5-6 Spring Fling at New Mexico Tech. Contests. Drag show.
11 Easter Egg Hunt, City of Socorro
17 Owl Bar run. Got a jogging stroller and 13 miles of energy?
22 (fourth Thursday in April) Take your daughter to work day
22 Earth Day, party on the plaza
28 Family Fun Fest, at Clark Field, sponsored by CYFD
29 Lottery day at the Cottonwood Valley Charter School
30 Registration for Socorro Stingrays, the public pool swim team, age 8-18 Diedre Vinson 575-838-6099

24 Luminarias at the Plaza and Art Stroll
NMT Performing Arts Series
Now, to take advantage of the series, you have to purchase season tickets. In a bigger town you might buy tickets to see your favorite bands, say Indigo Girls and Sarah McLaughlin. You couldn't possibly go to everything (nor could you afford it). If you liked Celtic music you might see a few Celtic shows, maybe even if you didn't recognise the band name. However in Socorro, if PAS is doing it, you just go. Some of the shows you will love, some you will learn from, but there's no way to tell in advance. If you don't like it, leave at intermission. I developed a love for Cajun music in Socorro from Beau Soleil. I spent seven years in North Carolina, but met black folk music through the Carolina Chocolate Drops in Macey Center. So Ronna exposes you to great art and culture for the measly season subscription of $144 for adults and $96 for those under 18. The great secret is that many of the shows at Macey perform in Albuquerque for $35-60 a ticket. People do drive down to Socorro to see a second show or for things that sell out in Albuquerque.
If that wasn't enough to send you running, then as a parent, this is the most kid friendly venue you will ever see. If dancing is appropriate, Ronna sets up the wings of the stage so that the kids can move to the music. We often spend part of the dancing evening sitting on the floor up against the wall, kid lying in the lap. Bench seats on the north wall provide a great view of the stage for short people. Squirrelly and squeaky kiddos are taken to the lobby where an excellent sound system keeps you with the show. When our oldest was only four months we bought tickets to Popejoy, the UNM Macey equivalent, to see Sweet Honey in the Rock. We were greeted with "That baby needs a ticket!" "OK, we didn't know, we'll buy her a ticket". "No you can't, we are sold out". A lecture from an usher, then from the manger, they gave us a ticket and an earful about manners (just for the record, we ALWAYS leave the minute kiddos make a noise). I couldn't help but feel the band would have been offended on our behalf. Two years later I took the kiddo again -- she wanted to bounce to the music but we weren't permitted to stand in the back where she'd be out every one's line of sight (fire restrictions) and when we left I got a kindly but annoying lecture about age appropriate events. As if bouncing to Sweet Honey in the Rock were inappropriate.
I can't imagine a better exposure any child could get to the arts than to have 18 seasons of PAS. Rock on Ronna!
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